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An eight year old boy has been charged with the double premeditated murder of his father and another man. This happened in Arizona, east of the Phoenix area, and police want prosecutors to try him as an adult. What a tragedy this is. What is an eight year old boy doing being tried as an adult? Does he even have a concept of what premeditated murder is? And, has there been abuse in the home no one knows of? Whatever the case, it's terible that a boy so young can even fathom `such a crime.
omg, that is awful. *cries* i heard of this before though. a couple of boys were tried for raping a little girl. and they were like eight and nine. its different crimes, but still, its awful. it makes you wonder what kind of world this is that let eight year old boys do that kind of stuff.
An eight-year-old boy has appeared in court charged with the murder of his father and another man, on the day his dad was buried.
The funeral of Vincent Romero was attended by some 600 mourners
Some of those attending the Arizona hearing weeped as the boy was led into court wearing handcuffs. He sat restlessly next to his mother during proceedings.
On Friday, a judge ordered a psychological evaluation of the eight-year-old.
He is alleged to have shot dead his 29-year-old father Vincent Romero - who had full custody of the boy - along with a 39-year-old co-worker Timothy Romans.
Both men were killed with a .22-calibre rifle in the small town of St Johns, 170 miles north-east of Phoenix.
Some 600 people attended Romero's funeral in St Johns, as friends and neighbours rejected suggestions he had abused his son - saying he was a caring father.
Killed: Vincent Romero
Police said the eight-year-old had planned the killings and he had confessed to them.
"This is precedent-setting. We're going to charge an eight-year-old with two counts of homicide," local police chief Roy Melnick was quoted by local media as saying.
Authorities were called to the boy's home by neighbours, who reported he had appeared at their door and said he "believed his father was dead".
"We haven't had anything like this in Apache County in my 23 years as a prosecutor," Criss Candelaria told the Arizona Republic newspaper.
"We need to figure out what was going on in this boy's head."
Okay, I understand the severity of this crime, but I sure as hell agree that he does NOT need to be tried as an adult! He's a little kid.
I wouldn't worry too much about it. they'll do a psychalogical evaluation of the kid, then they'll send him to juvy for 10 years or so. I doubt very highly, that any court in the united states would allow an 8 year old boy to be charged with homicide. can you see the southpark episode brewing in matt stone and tray parkers heads? I can, ...
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jesus christ! wtf is wrong with these people. how can an 8 year old even fathom premeditated murder. and, another question: why the fuck was the kid able to get his hands on the gun?
how do they even know he did it? I mean, sure he could have confessed, but maybe the cops kept asking and asking and asking and asking till he just said he did it just to shut them up? just my thoughts on the matter.
Maybe his prints were on the gun. If this is really the way it happened, What a shame for all involved. I wonder what is this world coming to some times. I even herd of another story where these teenagers purposely went out to find a forinner to beat up, well they killed him, and one of the persons involved is a star athlete at his school. Wow just wow!
Yes, it's a damn shame. *shakes head*
All I see is darkness and despair in the near furutre for us all the way this world is coming to these days. There's always news reports about children finding firearms and teens robbing stores or beating the fuck out of people sometimes killing them. It really is very disappointing for me to have to say that but it just the truth.
An eight year old boy and he's already doing things like that, sure he may have had some family issues but that gives him no right to do something like that. That's unforgiable and why would the parents in question leave a gun that can easily be accessed by a young child such as that, it is more so their fault for this happening to begin with had they locked it up properly.
LOCK YOUR FUCKING GUNS UP PEOPLE GOOD GOD!!
i'm afraid, most of the teenage shit these days is because of the permissive society we live in today. the law gives children more rights than they really deserve. rights to a warm and loving home, food, shelter and a safe environment are a given, but the right to choose? you get the right to choose as an adult. children these days are treated like mini adults, given rights over adults, and that's very very wrong. even police avoid arresting teenagers these days because of their supposed human rights. Teenagers have now, in the minority, a lack of respect for adults and authority, born out of their rights culture. teenagers scream, i know my rights! yes, but they have no responsibilities do they?
Okay, my question about the rape is, how are the eight and nine year old boys even physically capable of it?
That's sick. There was a nine year old who murdered his grandparents. Thanks to today's society, we're raising a generation that can smile as they kill and to make it worse, for no reason at all, while their afe is still a single-digit number. Chilling, isn't it, to think of the horrors they might commit without remorse in the future, thanks to the poison we mentally feed them that desensitizes them. It's sickening and deeply disturbing.
I agree with posts 10 and 11.
What else can one expect from such a sick society?
It is the absence of that state of love that brings us the worst of mankind's pains, sorrows and injustice.
It's easy to see how and where we've gone wrong in this world, and why. When you stop and analyze all of the areas of present day life that are in crisis or some stage of evolving crisis, where ever such is man made, it has come about as a direct result of the actions of people who act out of motivations
other than love. Indeed, their motivations are the antithesis, the opposite, the exclusion of love.
Maybe kids are given too may freedoms these days, but that doesn't mean they know what to do with them. And I disagree that kids are treated like mini adults, some of them are told their opinions don't matter, while adults have the luxury of saying whatever the hell they want. It's fucking degrading to live like that in my opinion. But I think kids are given too many freedoms and not enough explanations of them, and their lack of responsibilities makes them think they're invincible. Still, this kid shouldn't be tried as an adult, but then again he shouldn't just get a slap on the wrist either just because he's 8. There needs to be a middle ground, though I don't really know where that is. In cases like this it's hard to find a balance, but I know one extreme or the other won't work.
All right people. You wonder what's happening to the world. I think it's coming to a sudden an abrupt end. I don't support scientific theory, but the way we're going, 2012 sound's about right, whether they think they know how it's gonna happen or not. I just think it should. Yes, it may sound pessimistic, but as time goes on, people are becoming more evil, and the events we here about in the news everyday are more ridiculous or violent than the one before it.
Also, children are getting a lot smarter than kiddies from previous generations. And depending on what happens to a person and when, they end up knowing a lot more than they should, or their brain no longer has more wisdom and/or knowledge than is usual. A child can plan out a crime, just like they can plan to play with their friends and what game they'll play, it's not as hard as you think.
As for the law, hell no! they shouldn't be trying an 8-year-old as an adult. When children are that age, their parents are responsibile. It's hard to say whether the law gives too much leeway, or whether it is too strict. There are cases of both. Either the father was abusive in some way or another, or the boy's mother helped him plan this. It's hard to say.
The kid shouldn't be tried as an adult, but they need to figure out what's going on with his family and what's he learning in school. It's terrible that we're falling further down the spiral, but you can't climb back up. A scary thought, yes, but it's true.
I agree with post 12. We as humans in this society have failed. Even though some of us try to live well, most of them don't care. So for them, killing his parents is fun. Hell, they lost their mind, but that doesn't mean he should be charged like an adult. This kid has problems in his head and they should be treated as such. In fact everyone who commits these crimes has problems, jail is never a good solution. As soon as they get out, some of them probably go back to their normal, criminal lives. The ones that don't is because they had time to meditate/think. This world is just disturbing.
Of course, there are criminals that return to their lives of crime once released. And yes, they do all have problems and the money that goes into jails could be put toward sessions with psychiatrists, therapists, counsellors, and psychologists, but the work day is only so long, only so many people can fit on a schedule. I think that if a person is likely to return to a criminal's life, or if they're caught doing so after being released, then they should turn to psychological analyzations and such, if such actions have not already been taken.